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Reader Kathanda writes: "I just read your Fear and Loathing article, and I disagree. The religous right doesnt oppose gay-marriage because they hate homosexuals, although im sure there are some out there who do. They do it because they never grasped the whole separation of church and state concept. And please dont respond with some robotic 'institution of marriage' response. If brittany spears can get married for 5 minutes in vegas and the institution is okay, but 2 loving people want to get married, and the institution is shot becuase they happen to both be women, then perhaps the institution isnt worth protecting."
We're not really sure what's meant by "some robotic 'institution of marriage' response", but it should be noted that not only did God create Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve (or Alana and Eve), but God also instituted marriage. (Hence that whole "Thou shalt not commit adultery" thing.)
Now, if one does not accept marriage as an institution ordained of God, then all bets are off.
However, the damage done by this mockery called "homosexual marriage" is not done to the institution itself, but to society. And yes, Britney and her 55-hour "marriage" are just as detrimental. Civilization at its finest is built upon the foundation of the family, which begins with one man marrying one woman (polygamy -- or more accurately, polygyny -- is a can of worms best left unopened at this juncture).
We can't help but wonder, of course, just how long that much-vaunted "separation of church and state" will last once the militant homosexuals start demanding that their mockery be solemnized by and recognized by the church of their choice. We've already expressed our own support for the separation idea by pointing out that the real danger is not what the church would otherwise do to the state, but what the state will do to the church.
posted by Master Doh-San @ 7/31/2006 05:53:00 PM
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20 Comments:
I applaud your entire post, but especially that last sentence! Good going.
Thank you. For evidence, look at what has already happened in Canada: preacher arrested for daring to speak out against homosexuality.
Separation of church and state means the church should stay the hell out of politics. Its for our own good ya know. When any issue is supported or opposed because of religion, we get one step closer to becoming the Taliban. I personally do not want that to happen. Give me one completely non-religous reason why homosexual unions should not be recognized as marriages and perhaps I will be able to take your opinion seriously.
" Separation of church and state means the church should stay the hell out of politics."
How do you figure that?
"When any issue is supported or opposed because of religion, we get one step closer to becoming the Taliban."
Religion is one thing; morality, another.
Kathanda, give one completely non-religous reason why any heterosexual union should be recognized as a marriage.
I dont hear a reason doh-san
giraffe- i cant think of any reasons for marriage at all. Maybe we should just abolish the whole 'institution' That would dramatically un-complicate things. =)
The issue is not matrimony, but money!
Pervert-priveleges gang-leaders saw the profiteering the liberated lesbians of the Feminazi designer cause were gouging with divorce, and saw a cash cow in their fellow fagits and the state. This is NOT rocket-science, its the god of the godless: Green paper.
It's also an avenue into the pocketbooks of the productive for sex-change and AIDS "treatment".
Marriage is not an institution in Anerica anymore, it's a gravy train, and if you're a straight, white man, you have nothing to do with American "womyn".
"However, the damage done by this mockery called "homosexual marriage" is not done to the institution itself, but to society."
That should be enough of a "non-religious" reason. No society that has openly accepted homosexuality has ever long endured.
bullshit. excuse my french, but that is not a real reason. that is a cop out. What 'damage' could possible be done by openly recognizing what is already happening. Gay couples exist. They always have, yet society continues to function. i still hear no reason doh-san
No reasons for marriage, so how about we let the state stay out of marriage, and let the churhces marry whoever they want. Everyone else can shack up like they are already doing.
giraffe-- good point. we could just keep marriage a church-thing, but im pretty sure people would miss the tax breaks. Abolishing taxes... now theres an idea = )
Kathanda, you're "not far from the Kingdom of God" on this: If we were living in a free country, there would be no income tax, but "we have to have it", or the OMFR won't be able to get US into police-action, cannon-fodder wars in third-world hellholes like Vietnam and Iraq for the glory of the Roman Catholic CULT. As to marriage I've already touched on it: Keep government out of our churches; get the Roman Catholic Whore out of our government and let marriage be the "matter of faith" it should be, instead of a means of Reich-Schtaat revenue/excuse for government favoritism.
The preservation of our society isn't a good enough reason????
Tell me again why society is in danger... Gay people want to get married ?? I just dont feel like society is threatened. Perhaps you could enlighten me as to the specific damage that gay marriage is doing on society... Until then, I still hear no reason.
Homosexual "marriage" just another nail in the coffin of our society. Death by a thousand cuts. People like to say "Oh, that particular cut isn't doing any harm", but it makes its contribution.
You need to go read some unrevised history.
hahaha. That was pretty vague. Surely you've had enough time to think of something. I was really kind of hoping you could come up with a good reason, but until i hear one.. I will continue to believe that just because heterosexual marriage is the way of the Bible, doesnt mean it should be the way of this country. Sorry, but theres this pesky little thing called religous freedom, and some people practice religions other than Christianity.
kathanda, I am greatly concerned that - since it is only an attempt by some to live at the expense of others - "gay" marriage will do much more harm to homosexuals than to the "institution" or society. It might surprise you to learn as I did last year by survey and research for my blog, that a majority of rank-and-file gay people feel the same way.
I am a single white man who will never marry, because the so-called institution has its foundations in one person owning/acting like they own another, and "I swear by life, and by my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another, nor ask another to live for mine."
The whole thing could so easily be resolved if churches everywhere decided to enforce the seperation of Church and State by refusing to record marriages by means of marriage licenses. Marriage is between a man, a woman and God, after all, so why involve the State? Does that license "legitimize" the marriage? Nope. In fact, such marriage licenses are a fairly recent invention.
If its between a man, a woman, and god, then why even involve a church. The church can be such a pain in the ass sometimes....
You're right, Pablo. The Church acts as God's agent.
Of course, as Kathanda pointed out, some churches can be a pain. Not all, but some. Just find the one that has the fullness of His Gospel, and you've got it made.
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